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Posted By admin On 02.09.19Vannak netes kepek, es sajatok is, de hogy a vegen mit keres a telom, meg a cb-m, meg az egyik lrobbant teherauto, azt nemtudom:D. Michelangelo at Work: Bernardino Basso woodworkers, tilers, manual laborers who were paid for a variety of 260 This content. Baikal izh 27 manual lawn. When I started shooting all those years ago there was only one budget-orientated shotgun brand and that was Baikal. The butt of every known shotgunning joke, the great thing about these Russian shotguns was that they were cheap to buy, rarely, if ever, went wrong and would stand up to years of neglect and abuse.
I've had a look on the internet regards finding how to interpret the markings on a Baikal IJ-58M (the flats on the underside of the barrels). There are the obvious gun serial number/chamber size/proof stamp etc. But trying to decipher the remaining symbols has me baffled. I've looked at a few sites having used Google but the information I've found is limited.I'm particularly interested in finding out the age of the gun and the chokes etc.
And basically anything else that can be gained from these symbols.When these guns were sold new, were they supplied with any literature/manual etc? If so, would anyone be aware if it has ever been put on the internet in the form of a pdf?I noticed when turning the barrels over (forend removed). The ejector mechanism has a single screw in between the mechanism, a flat blade type screw, is this to activate/deactivate the ejector mechanism?I picked up an as new looking Baikal IJ-58M (just had to own a SBS) and wanted to find out about the gun, any help much appreciated.
Thanks hoggy. Cheers Steve'O. Only got it yesterday afternoon, not fired it yet. Got it off a guy from the Bristol area, nice fella. (hope he doesn't get fined for pulling the emergency stop cable on the Train yesterday).I noticed it has 'Made in the USSR' pressed into the side of the mechanism, so if my memory serves me right the USSR disintergrated late 1991, so working on that, mine is plus 10 years old minimum. It's condition may give the impression its 2/3 years old, its really in a nice condition, very pleased with it.The barrel length is 28 5/8' and I can't actually see a designated code for the model.
I'm assuming its a IJ-58M. It does have the ejectors or extractors?. They appear to be manually pushed closed as I close up the gun, basically being pushed back in place by the rear most part of the mechanism that encloses the firing mechanisn 'sorry not sure of all the technical terms'.I've an OU Franchi 12 bore but for some reason this SBS Baikal 12 bore facinates me, more so than my Franchi gun. The Baikal wouldn't look out of place resting on a Greece partisans shoulder, dresses in a goat skin jacket whilst high up the mountains of Crete in 1943, waiting to ambush the German invadersAny info about these guns Steve'o much appreciated, as is the info you have kindly already supplied me.
Cheers Steve'O. Only got it yesterday afternoon, not fired it yet. Got it off a guy from the Bristol area, nice fella. (hope he doesn't get fined for pulling the emergency stop cable on the Train yesterday).I noticed it has 'Made in the USSR' pressed into the side of the mechanism, so if my memory serves me right the USSR disintergrated late 1991, so working on that, mine is plus 10 years old minimum. It's condition may give the impression its 2/3 years old, its really in a nice condition, very pleased with it.The barrel length is 28 5/8' and I can't actually see a designated code for the model. I'm assuming its a IJ-58M. It does have the ejectors or extractors?.
They appear to be manually pushed closed as I close up the gun, basically being pushed back in place by the rear most part of the mechanism that encloses the firing mechanisn 'sorry not sure of all the technical terms'.I've an OU Franchi 12 bore but for some reason this SBS Baikal 12 bore facinates me, more so than my Franchi gun. The Baikal wouldn't look out of place resting on a Greece partisans shoulder, dresses in a goat skin jacket whilst high up the mountains of Crete in 1943, waiting to ambush the German invadersAny info about these guns Steve'o much appreciated, as is the info you have kindly already supplied me. Sound sculptures volume 1 rareist.
HoggyYour Welcome hoggyBut I am thinking its older than 10years?Think there has been 2 models out since the IJ-58. I've tried to take some photo's using the wifes iphone. Just don't seem clear enough to attempt to put on the thread! Will try again tomorrow.The forend on mine looks a bit different to yours Steve'O in so much as it doesnt appear to have the metal hook/tag at the end of the forend you have highlighted in you photo. I have just automatically assumed mine is an IJ-58, I will try and take an overview photo of the gun, maybe you and/or Hector could confirm one way or the other as to what it actually is (either way I'm well pleased with it). Tuesday I'm going to put 50-75 cartridges through it. I've tried to take some photo's using the wifes iphone.
Just don't seem clear enough to attempt to put on the thread! Will try again tomorrow.The forend on mine looks a bit different to yours Steve'O in so much as it doesnt appear to have the metal hook/tag at the end of the forend you have highlighted in you photo. I have just automatically assumed mine is an IJ-58, I will try and take an overview photo of the gun, maybe you and/or Hector could confirm one way or the other as to what it actually is (either way I'm well pleased with it). Tuesday I'm going to put 50-75 cartridges through it.It will be marked on action in front of trigger guard if it is a IJ-58MAE. Have you used you're mobile phone to take those photos Steve'O? There really clear!
My mobile phone camera is quite poor, every photo I take appears to have been taken whilst in the midst of a Hailstorm.The embossed graphics on the mechanism of mine has on one side, a Woodcock and the other a Grouse (well that's my interpretation of them), both couldn't be described as intricate craftsmanshipRemoved the ejector/extractor rod today, just needed to remove the grub screw and it simply slipped out, and gave it a clean. Its much smoother but when I push the ejector/extractor rod back in, the last 3-4mm prior to sit seating adjacent to the barrel it becomes quite stiff, though when fully assembled it functions fine. Prior to cleaning it, the mechanism was stiff about 10mm prior to it touching the barrel, so an improvement, small issue I can resolve at a later date.Will try and get some photos posted asap (got the in-laws up from Surrey over the bank holiday). Don't want to get the gun out as there are kids everywhere, they're going tomorrow so will try and sort some out then.
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Cheers Steve'O. Have you used you're mobile phone to take those photos Steve'O? There really clear!
My mobile phone camera is quite poor, every photo I take appears to have been taken whilst in the midst of a Hailstorm.The embossed graphics on the mechanism of mine has on one side, a Woodcock and the other a Grouse (well that's my interpretation of them), both couldn't be described as intricate craftsmanshipRemoved the ejector/extractor rod today, just needed to remove the grub screw and it simply slipped out, and gave it a clean. Its much smoother but when I push the ejector/extractor rod back in, the last 3-4mm prior to sit seating adjacent to the barrel it becomes quite stiff, though when fully assembled it functions fine. Prior to cleaning it, the mechanism was stiff about 10mm prior to it touching the barrel, so an improvement, small issue I can resolve at a later date.Will try and get some photos posted asap (got the in-laws up from Surrey over the bank holiday).
Don't want to get the gun out as there are kids everywhere, they're going tomorrow so will try and sort some out then. Cheers Steve'OI took all my pic's with my Samsung Galaxy S 2 camera 8 megLook forward to seeing them pic's.
Took the gun for a run out today, put 100 cartridges through it, (now I know why OU's are preferred to SBS Shotguns when shooting clays ). Using 28g practice cartridges it has quite a kick to it. Shooting at the high towers attempting to shoot the overhead clays, it was all I could do to hold on to the gun, by then I'd put 75 plus cartridges through it.
My fingers were touching the barrel and the heat plus the kick made for an interesting day.Gun worked a treat and will be great fun when being used as a field gun (only took it for a trail, its not going to be used for clay pigeon shooting, I've an OU for that). All in all, made up with it.p.s.
Both pics the same, just I not very good at downloading stuff.Edited April 10, 2012 by hoggysreels.
Have bought three of these in the last three years. 180046 12ga for myself.
180045 20ga for my wife and the 410 for my son(I dont remember the model number off hand and had to special order through Gander Mountain). All three are solid well built guns for the money. The wood to metal fit is very good and we have had no problems. We use the guns mostly for hunting. I do use mine for shooting clays 2-3 times a year as well.
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The finish of the guns is good, however the checkering on the stocks is rather shallow in a couple of spots. I think they are great guns for the money. I was very happy to see some reasonable double guns come to the market a few years back.Do stop at your local stores and hold a few Baikals,Stoegers and Verona's for yourself.Some guys will tell you to spend the money for the Citori, Ruger Etc.I hunt with the same type of guys and usually end up with more birds.I regularly golf with friends who have to have the best ( Calloway,Taylor Made, Etc.) We play fairly evenly and I even beat them sometimes( with my 15 year old Wilson's)Just my 2 cents.Good Luck,Rob. I bought an IZH27, and immediately smoked the first 18 clays with it. After that I started to shoot more like usual tho.In case you hadn't noticed, the gun has a little cast-off, so a lefty might not like it much. Thus far the problems I've had with mine have been: the firing pin for the bottom barrel has not retracted after firing, very occasionaly, and made it difficult to open the breech. And once it doubled when I selected the top barrel to fire first.
It's not the finest O/U you can buy, but I bet you'll have a hard job finding a better one for the price. A friend of mine purchased an IZH-27 a couple of weeks ago and several of us got together with him for a round of sporting clays and to get a look at his new Russkie stackbarrel.For the money it appeared to be a good buy. As has been mentioned, the cast-off is appreciable and this puts me off because of my left-handedness (you look down the barrel and the thing positively points to the right, big time.)My friend had one incident during the round of the gun failing to fire the 2nd barrel. I don't know why, but it happened. I was under the impression that these things have mechanical rather than inertial triggers, so malfunctions of this type should not occur?The other problem with this gun is that as a sporting model you have to wonder why the safety is automatic.
There were several wasted clays (when all of us tried the 27) due to this peculiarism.This experience of the IZH-27 has lead me to conclude that this is not the way to go in a sporting O/U - I would save the money or take out a 2nd mortgage and buy a better gun, but that's me.Mike. I have had problems with my IZH 27.In the year of ownership and about a 2000 rounds I first had to put finish on the stocks, then cure a sticky firing pin after that Have the stock glued and fitted to the reciever because the gun to metal was wrong which screwed my whole hunting season. I think if you are going to shoot at a range its best to spend in 1000-1500 and get a solid gun that you can put 10,000 rounds through trouble free. You will get a gun that doesn't come with a bunch of hassle and you will be happier longer, not to mention resale if you hate it. I didn't even make it a year before a upgraded.good luck.
Finish on stock - AstheticSure I love paying for a gun and having the stock tarnishing on the third outing. Isn't a gun partly aesthetic, hence the phrase 'look and feel'.
How about a trouble free round of of clays? What's the aesthetic value of that?Sticky pin - Could happen to any O/U, and I've seen it happen.It sure is nice to take a new gun out of the box and down to the range, thinking that you got a great gun and then having to break it over your knee every time to extract the shells. Pretty disappointing. Look at the the post on and see how many other are moaning about stiff actions. Not to mention the great feeling of having the skeet squads you're shooting with ducking for c27 owners over because you're enganged in mortal combat over your spent shells. Maybe that would fall back in the aesthetics category.
The gun shows excessive wear and the gunsmith says that the the ends of the firing pins are mashing out like tent stakes because the metal is soft. So plan on having the problem happen often.Stock - How was the wood to metal 'wrong'?When the stock was fitted to the receiver they cut the space too small for the action and it split the stock like a wedge, causing it to crack in two places on the right side.So what do I do with this Russian elephant?
I have put too much effort into it to let it go for the low price it would sell for. As one dealer replied when I asked him about a trade-in, 'there'd be blood in the Streets.' It is my first o/u and its a good gun to shoot once in a while but if I knew how much I was going to like shooting clays when I first bought the gun I would have set my sites higher. Or maybe shot for a year with my 1100 and formed a better decision.Best regardsbrent. Greetings from FinlandI am new Baikal IJ27 12/76 owner.
My opinion is: decent gun, low price. You need better?
Spend much more money. Dont have lots of money? Buy BaikalSome serious words though: Take the forend off and check the markings of the barrels. No magnums, sir (at least not over 90mpa magnums ). No steel shot marking? I would not put steel in the chamber.Anyway: My dealer gave me written verification that I can use magnums.
So I use them.so farBest regardsJoukoEU: From Welfare State to Police State. Joe,It depends on how much shooting you're going to do on the clays course with the gun. The IZH27 is in my opinion designed to be a hunting gun, and works well in that venue. The auto-safety is a royal pain in the behind on the clays course.I have about 10,000 rounds through my IZH27 and have had no mechanical problems to speak of. The gun was very tight out of the box, and with a thorough cleaning and dressing up of the wearing surfaces, it loosened up nicely.The finish on the wood is very thin and will require some work if aesthetics are a concern.
The wood used in the stocks isn't the finest hardwood. EAA has sent replacement stocks to several individuals who had problems with splitting.In nearly all cases of complaints I've heard on the gun, the individual did not disassemble and thoroughly clean and lubricate the gun.
They just took it out of the box and started shooting. With the sticky rust preventative in the works, parts don't move freely and things can get bent or damaged when trying to force the gun open.An ounce of preventative care and common sense goes a long way. I am curious about the rating for lead vs steel. Since i havent opened the gun and read the manual, i was hoping someone could shead some light on the subject. THANKS!PeterContact EAA if your gun does not have steelproof mark. I hope it has.
Sometimes these russian rules are littlebit confusing (just imagine how long borderline with russians we finns have ).I dunno why they dont put the stamp in the gun if the gun is steelproofed. Maybe they dont do the tests because they trust the gun.
But when there is your personal safety in question you cant be too careful. My decision is 'no steel' until my dealer gives me written and signed verification that the gun can stand iron or puts the gun thru the test.By the way: this bbs is just awesome. Good quality discussions and polite mannersBest regardsJoukoEU: From Welfare State to Police State.
I have an IZH27 20ga. With nickel receiver, 26' barrels, and walnut stock model.
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I bought this gun to get back into skeet and am very pleased with it. The fit and finish is very good and have had none of the problems that others speak of.The trigger is mechanical, the selectable ejectors/extractors are a great feature not found on many, more expensive guns, and the barrel selector, via pushing the trigger forward to select top barrel, works as it should. I wasn't fond of the automatic safety, but it only takes a few rounds to remember to take it off before calling for your clay. It can also be disabled if it really bothers you that much.The action was a little tight at first, but became easier after a few rounds. I think any new gun should be disassembled, cleaned and lubed before use. The Baikal is no different.At the skeet range my Baikal has performed flawlessly, except when Winchester forgot to put shot in my AA's. Everyone I shoot with use much more expensive guns, but have accepted me and my cheap Baikal without criticism.
One of the best shooters even made a comment that my Baikal reminded him of a 'K' gun. LOLWell, it's no 'K' gun, and it's not a 'B' gun, but it's a great gun for the money, and I'm glad I didn't spend three or four times what I did. I would definitely buy it again.Just my experience and opinions,Otto.